Lost Episode 4.07 - Ji Yeon Easter Eggs & Screencaps
This week was once again pretty scarce on good easter egg material. We got a new book to check out, courtesy of suicide blonde Regina. The book is "The Survivors of the Chancellor" by Jules Verne. I could pretend I know what it's about, or I could just tell you to go here if you care.
Just when you thought we had rid ourselves of Nikki and Paulo, one of them sneaks back into the show via a femtosecond long cameo. Hey, at least it wasn't Paulo. Sun, like Locke and Hurley, appears to also be an Expose fan.
Look closely to the left of Jin's left shoulder and you'll spot a "Ben 10" toy. According to good ol' Wikipedia, Ben 10's pilot episode didn't air until 2005, throwing a wrench into the episode's timeline. I guess I'll let this one slip, Lost producers, but next time I expect all toys to be accurate to the time frame
Mario and Yoshi get some free pub just in time for the release of Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I smell a conspiracy.
Jin's old school Zack Morris cell phone had us wondering what decade this was.
Astute viewers may have picked up on the "Year of the Dragon" being the year 2000, hinting that Jin is in a flashback, not flash forward.
Is it just me, or do the map's seem to get worse every week. Kate needs to take some cartography lessons from Rousseau.
Michael (or Kevin if you prefer) makes a brief appearance here before his official reveal later in the episode.
The captain's book shelf includes such classics as "U-Boat War" by Lothar-Gunther Buchheim (author of Das Boot) and "Guide to the Soviet Navy" by Norman Polmar. Sweet.
Not really an easter egg, but I just enjoyed seeing Michael back again.
It looks like Jin died on Sept. 22, 2004, the day Oceanic 815 went down. So I'm assuming this means he's out as a possibility for the Oceanic 6. So we have Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun, and...Aaron? Darlton has said that we would know all six by the end of this episode and I can't think of who else it would be.
Make sure you check out our screencap recap for "Ji Yeon" as well.
We now have our podcast up for this episode. Check it out.
Previous Episodes:
Episode 4.06 - The Other Woman Easter Eggs & Whispers audio
Episode 4.05 - The Constant Easter Eggs
Episode 4.04 - Eggtown Screencap Recap
Could it possibly be Michael instead of Aaron as part of the Oceanic 6
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That is a good guess. Perhaps Michael is the one in the coffin at the end of season 3......
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Michael can not be one of the 6, because... What about Walt? He left the island with Michael.
And... Why he has returned to die? That is what he said when he was asked about what he is doing on the ship by Sayid.
Rosa (Spain)
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I had a question about Jin's gravestone. What does the date on the left mean? 3-20-80?
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I think maybe that is Sun's birthdate.
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3-20-80 is the DOB of Sun.
11-27-74 is the DOB of Jin.
The names on the plastic bag containing the Sun's wedding ring has "Patient: Kwon, Sung Hae" and "Retained by: Nurse-Lee, Eun Hae" written on it. Maybe the ring doesn't belongs to Sun or Lost made a mistake?
When Jin was buying the Panda from the toy store, the owner asked, "is this for the baby?" and the translation said "Do you want me to wrap this for you?" Funny...
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Why can't Desmond be the final member of the Oceanic Six?
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first... sorry about my English...
Desmond can't be an Oceanic Six because he's not a passenger of the flight?
I think that Locke is the last Oceanic Six...
In the last episode of third season we can see at newspaper on Jack's hand that Johnatam died... and Jack went to the funeral...
then he asks Kate why didn't she go there...
I mean... the dead can only be Locke!
Aaron is not a passenger of the flight... He born in the island...
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Because Desmond wasn't on the plane
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I predict the person in the coffin is Sawyer, who back in the States had no family or friends. Therefore, he would have been the 6th member of the Oceanic Six. Ben mentioned that he has a spy on the boat. I believe his spy is Sayid, who all along has been playing a role. What do you think?
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i think its pretty clear after watching this episode that michael is ben's spy on the boat
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Michael is the 6th person - oceanic 6. I think Jin is still alive. The only way he could be free from Sun's father is to be one of the passengers who supposedly died. He is probably on the island and will come in to play in the future. That is why the date of his death on the tomb stone would be the day of the crash.
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You guys are assuming that the person in the coffin is one of the Oceanic 6 - here are the 6 - Kate, Jack, Sun, Aaron, Hurley, Sayid.....
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come guys, youre not thinking 4th Dimensionally! Sorry, "Back to the Future" joke there that i always wanted to say.
in "Eggtown", Jack said that there were only 8 survivors of the crash itself. Season 1 started us out with 15 (40-something if you wna count the background extras). Coupled with the fact that there seems to be this thing of "not supposed to have left the island" and Jack's later regret and eagerness to get back to makes me think that somehow, "sacrifices were made" to get off the island, if you catch my drift..
Most likely in my guestimation: Jin was somehow a casualty of the exodus from the island. 9/22/2004 just being the general date as they have no real clue as to what date it is. Or its actually a cover up and they're just saying he died on the crash..
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Jin's ID card in the wallet is like a Korean's Social Security Card. The name on the card doesn't have Jin's Name on it. In the white space on the right: first line contains the name and second line contains the birthday-some numbers. It is really hard to make up the name on the card, but "last character is not "Soo" (Jin's middle name). Also the birthday doesn't ends with "27" (Tomb stone has Jin's B-Day as 11/27/74)
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Oceanic 6 is Jake, kate, hurley, sayid, sun, and michael.
aaron was born on the island and is therefore not a member.
end of discussion
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Amen!
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Darlton said it would be clear who the 6 were, and it was in no way clear that Michael is the sixth. Maybe he is, but I did not get that impression from this episode.
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i doubt the person in the coffin would be any of the oceanic 6 (whoever the 6th member is) because they are celebrities and there would have been a news frenzy.
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the same can be aplied to michael... if everybody knows that kate is a fugitive (miles, for example), how could michevin (michael-kevin) be so anonymous?
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as for the survivors, we know for a fact that 6 people are 'credited' for surviving the plane crash. There could be others- but the general public doesnt know about it.(ie- maybe 'Michael' is dead, but Kevin Johnson lives).
There could be others rescued that werent on the plane- Ben,Desmond,Juliet?? Ben apparently gets off island somehow, and I suspect Desmond will too.
as for the '8 survived the crash-but only 6 lived'....obviously the company line means that Jin died in the crash, Claire survived the crash and lived long enough to give birth- and officially 'died'. The other one- maybe Charlie? The fact the story is that 2 died later might suggest that 2 bodies came back with the survivors, the rest all died during the crash(but may be still alive left on a hard to find island).
What gets confusing is if Aaron is 1 of the 6,and Jin died in the crash....how did Sun become preggers from a dead guy? Either she is also lying about who the father is or....the weird Lost time difference is big enough that her pregnancy could have been started pre-flight....but then wouldnt her baby make it the 'oceanic 7'??? Should Aaron be one of the 'survivors' simply because his mother was farther along in her pregnancy than Sun???
Either the public hasnt done the math on Suns pregnancy....or you have to question if Aaron is 'officially' 1 of the 6.
Im leaning towards Michael being the final member (the directors said it would be 'clear' by the end of the episode). clear as mud apparently.
I still think it was Michael that was in the coffin- despite him being a celebrity, the obit and the funeral surroundings indicated it was his funeral.
I reserve the right to retract all theories after watching the next episode!
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well im guessing that Charlie is indeed one of the two dead Oceanics. Naomi DID say that they made a big deal about his supposed death on the flight.
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Upon further thought.....
Aaron is NOT 1 of the 6. Jack stated that there were 8 survivors because of Kates heroism- but 2 later died. Aaron was born on the island- so he wasnt included in Jacks survivor list (nor the flight manifest). If Aaron is indeed Claires Aaron(literally and in the survivors story theyre sticking too)- then he mustve been snuck off island seperately. I dont see how someone with Kates murderous background would be allowed to 'adopt' a baby that she had no right to. They must be passing off the baby as hers- meaning she saved 7 others, then 2 died and then she had Aaron.
The fact that only 2 died post crash- would indicate that they had 2 bodies with them when they were rescued(otherwise why not say all the others died in the crash).
In the courtroom scene- the prosecutor asked Jack if he still loved Kate...which would indicate that there was some kind of public knowledge that they were an item.... maybe thats how they explain Aaron. Jack and Kate fell in love on island, Kate got pregnant- had Aaron, leaving there rescue approx. 1 year after the crash (we cant assume they all get rescued at the same time- this is lost after all,but it would make sense for Kate/Jack to be 'rescued' together)
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I think the sixth survivor might be Walt. Maybe Michael helps them to get off the island and asks them to say Walt was with them so he will not have to live in hiding anymore.
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